Curse

Zan Usi Quan · Mar 19, 2008, 07:27 PM // 19:27

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Originally Posted by Pupu

Sorry but what comes out your mouth is bull.

Maybe some ppl just cba with the whole taking 50 years to kill 1 hard mode zone with normal way.

or people being arsed completing quests the FUN way

MirkoTeran · Mar 19, 2008, 07:31 PM // 19:31

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Originally Posted by angmar_nite

The reason people ursan is because they're too incompetent to run team builds.

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Originally Posted by Pupu

Maybe some ppl just cba with the whole taking 50 years to kill 1 hard mode zone with normal way.

Pupu, you actually confirm what he wrote. People are too incompetent to run good builds that can do HM zone at same speed or faster then with Avatar of Yogi Bear...

Mr. Undisclosed · Mar 19, 2008, 07:42 PM // 19:42

Actually handy fact: Ursan DoA groups are faster then "balanced DoA groups. But back on the topic of the build please, every thread with ursan is the name doesn't need to be truned into an ursan win/lose thread.

novawhiz · Mar 19, 2008, 10:31 PM // 22:31

Me and my friends have been doing similar stuff like that when runing ursan.

Sometimes we bring one Raven for blinding in melee heavy areas.

odly · Mar 20, 2008, 06:24 AM // 06:24

The SQ idea seems pretty solid. Removes the need for Essence of celerity as well. (or do they stack ?)

The beastmaster Ursan can be replaced with any other Ursan I think.
I would consider an Imbagon with Ursan instead.
Drop Focused for Ursan but don't use it.
FGJ can be up almost all the time with SQ active.

Ursan, SY, TNTF, FGJ, AR/Drunken Brawler + some utility

Is Avatar of Dwayna still allways recharged if you drop out of Ursan so you can keep both active all the time ? I thought they fixed that and haven't tested it since.

Joe Fierce · Mar 20, 2008, 06:04 PM // 18:04

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Originally Posted by Fuzzy Taco

qft, +1, 12 chars, whatever.

as far as the build goes, it looks powerful - the healing should help in areas like Shards where the Earth eles Eruption like crazy, and where there's a ton of obnoxious hexes like in FoW. my alliance regularly does ursan runs in FoW and plenty of other places, so i'd be happy to get a testing group together for some tough areas, if at all possible.

/endursanfight

you're a little rude aren't you, i like how right as i'm being told to qft i'm told because i'm attempting to do the same thing you are at the end of your posting, note the added bold.

FoxBat · Mar 20, 2008, 06:20 PM // 18:20

QZ is insane with ursan, but you need to adjust the backline. The energy cost kills regular monk builds fast.

HC is a pretty good choice. The prot bar is more questionable.... at least find a better/cheaper elite. You might look at soul reaping N/Rts as well.

Eldin · Mar 20, 2008, 07:00 PM // 19:00

Creative idea but Ursan is godly enough, I see no reason to expand upon it.

Say how do you pronoune "ursanagaway"? :P

Fuzzy Taco · Mar 20, 2008, 07:20 PM // 19:20

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Originally Posted by Joe Fierce

you're a little rude aren't you, i like how right as i'm being told to qft i'm told because i'm attempting to do the same thing you are at the end of your posting, note the added bold.

qft, at least to me, means "Quoted for truth." i totally agree that you're right in trying to stop the inevitable ursan argument - sorry for any misunderstanding.

Mr. Undisclosed · Mar 20, 2008, 07:23 PM // 19:23

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Originally Posted by Eldin

Creative idea but Ursan is godly enough, I see no reason to expand upon it.

Say how do you pronoune "ursanagaway"? :P

Why gimp yourself if you can have something better?

Joe Fierce · Mar 20, 2008, 09:02 PM // 21:02

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Originally Posted by Fuzzy Taco

qft, at least to me, means "Quoted for truth." i totally agree that you're right in trying to stop the inevitable ursan argument - sorry for any misunderstanding.

sorry m8, some forumers use it to say quit f***ing talking, maaaannnyyy apologies for this misunderstanding. and it's me fault as i jumped to conclusions.

Eldin · Mar 20, 2008, 09:08 PM // 21:08

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Originally Posted by Sergeant Miyagi

Why gimp yourself if you can have something better?

As it's said above, most people who use Ursan are braindead - this is too complex for them.

Sheik90 · Mar 20, 2008, 09:38 PM // 21:38

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Originally Posted by Eldin

As it's said above, most people who use Ursan are braindead - this is too complex for them.

or they dont play any of the "Holy Trinity" classes, good luck finding group as as any other class since all the people are looking for are either Warrior, Elementalist or Monk.

Joe Fierce · Mar 20, 2008, 09:41 PM // 21:41

all yall are doing is getting this guys thread closer and closer to being shut down for being a fight thread, it's like a ticking time bomb and yall keep on messing with the hour hands, please, ursan debate somewhere else other than this guys farming thread, as i've said before, i'm sure he'd appreciate it.

spirit of defeat · Mar 21, 2008, 03:20 AM // 03:20

not that I don't like ursan's but I prefer a team which doesn't is mixed with
ursan x6
monk x2
makes thing's boring imo.
3 ursan's is enough for me, at least I'm never the ursan

I don't see where this is a arm build.....
pve wiki says general

Mr. Undisclosed · Mar 21, 2008, 05:30 AM // 05:30

Ursanway in general is for farming, weather it be vanquisher, DoA, etc

High Moral · Mar 21, 2008, 06:16 AM // 06:16

Dont want to play Ursan? But want a group?

play monk!

over and out.

odly · Mar 21, 2008, 04:48 PM // 16:48

I did some testing with arcane mimicry and Dervish forms because I didn't know how the updates affected that.

You can copy Ursan with Arcan mimicry.
You then activate Dervish form, follow with the mimicried Ursan and have both active at once.

When you drop out of Ursan (totem of man/loss of energy) the Dervish Form will be recharged.
The mimicried Ursan will no longer be on your skill bar, but arcane mimicry will be recharged so you can copy it again and start over.
(leech signet, weapon switch to regain energy and you can mimicry->form->Ursan again.)

This gives you near permanent Ursan + Dervish form.

IF you have a person to copy Ursan from.
Why the big IF ? Because you cannot copy Ursan blessing from a person who has Ursan active. Once they activate Ursan the Elite Skill "Ursan Blessing" is no longer on their skill bar and you cannot mimicry it anymore until they leave Ursan.

(btw. In the past Mimicry would be stuck with a recharged Ursan Blessing, so you had only to use mimicry once and have both the Dervish form and Ursan on your skillbar until you zoned.)

When doing this as a team build it could work if you had a person with Ursan on his skillbar who did not actually use it, so you can allway copy it from him.

If you want to leave Ursan and reactivate Avatar+Ursan about every minute then having someone to copy it from is needed.

Guildmaster Cain · Mar 21, 2008, 09:54 PM // 21:54

Too bad this is turning into a hate-ursanwaying thread. If people just could stick to the point..

Anyway gg on the teambuild, using Mimicry + Avatar I posted a while ago in my Ursanway Guide, somewhere hidden in the dung of the PvE builds section.

The only problem is finding 6 or so Dervishes, nevertheless I see potential in this. The problem would be communication on which character to copy Ursan from, Maybe the Ranger or so, since he is obvious when laying down the spirits.

edit: apparently, my guide has been deleted by myself somehow, although i cant remember doing so
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ursanway+guide
Too bad the original is still on my broken laptop, which I hope to fix and restore the guide soon

metalhodo · Jun 18, 2008, 02:59 PM // 14:59

hm... just wondering why anyone didnt notice.. or its me who doesn`t understand it... the summon naga shaman says that only one asuran summon ca be active a time.. the way i see it, this applyes to the whole party... maybe i am wrong.. enlighten me anyway:P
if i am right... seing to cooldown and duration of the spell it would be enough only 1 with max asura rank... the rest would be a waste of slots..
anyway.. thats my opinion...